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7 minutes ago, PurpleDawg said:

Yes, but I think individual schools have cancelled classes/activities for longer. It's sort of an individual deal at this point, but I think it's about to be "no more on-campus activities for the remainder of the academic year PERIOD" real soon.


Yup.  Things seem to be moving toward “all future games cancelled.”

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@Lyle Lanley II this is what I was looking for and referencing when I answered you above. BigX has cancelled everything for the rest of the semester. I think all conferences are going to follow.

 

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The Atletic says all of their coverage of the virus is free, just in case you want to check out what they're reporting on from the pros and colleges.

https://theathletic.com/

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The Big 12 Conference announces that beginning Friday, March 13, it is suspending all regular-season competitions, on- and off-campus recruiting, and out-of-season practices until Sunday, March 29.
 
The suspension of these athletic-related activities does not include campus-based practices for in-season sports, strength and conditioning activities for all sports,  and does not apply to teams and individuals participating in NCAA Championship competition.
 
Earlier today the Conference announced the cancellation of Big 12 Championship events through April 15.

https://big12sports.com/news/2020/3/12/the-big-12-conference-announces-additional-measures.aspx

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Starting tomorrow, PGA tournaments will be played without galleries. 

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12 minutes ago, AlohaFrog said:

Starting tomorrow, PGA tournaments will be played without galleries. 

Aloha, aloha! Glad to see you. :) Hope you and Mrs. A are well.

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3 hours ago, AlohaFrog said:

Starting tomorrow, PGA tournaments will be played without galleries. 

It looks like things have changed...

 

It is with regret that we are announcing the cancellation of THE PLAYERS Championship.

We have also decided to cancel all PGA TOUR events – across all of our Tours – in the coming weeks, through the Valero Texas Open. 

https://www.pgatour.com/company/2020/03/12/pga-tour-statement-regarding-cancellation-of-the-players-championship-and-upcoming-pga-tour-events.html?fbclid=IwAR2nH6p9qXxC6Eqx_9bLrTu5uakKviVvnt1buC3-OSMkYDN5of0zvmFdl1E

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6 hours ago, PurpleDawg said:

I hope you don't get sick, EP. Really, friend.

I think that applies to everyone.

 

I would take 3-4 days of severe flu symptoms to avoid losing thousands in income and running up credit card debt that could take years to pay off. 

 

I would take a week of severe flu symptoms to have friends avoid losing thousands in income and running up credit card debt that could take years to pay off. 

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I wonder what this will do to ESPN without live sports programming?  Can't imagine advertisers will pay premium dollar for their talk shows to run extended times (or worse reruns).

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The sports world is often considered to exist in a parallel universe from real-world problems, but it was dealt a double dose of reality on Wednesday and Thursday with the cancellation of the NCAA Tournament and the suspension of the NBA and NHL seasons among others due to the coronavirus pandemic.
This has also had wide-spread implications for the fledgling legalized sports betting industry in this country which was looking forward to the start of the NCAA men’s basketball tournament (aka March Madness) next week with the number of states taking bets up to 16 with Illinois and Michigan joining the action this week.
Nevada sportsbooks won $36.5 million from basketball bettors last March from a total of $498.7 million in bets, according to the state’s Gaming Control Board. Nevada doesn’t separate college and pro basketball from its figures, but GBC senior research analyst Michael Lawton estimates 70 percent of that handle is on March Madness, or around $349 million. New Jersey reported a March Madness handle of $106 million last year with a win of $10 million. With the growth of the industry the past year, those figures were certainly expected to increase.
Many bettors, especially novices, have been learning the past two days about “house rules” that determine if bets have action or not. All advance wagers on conference tournament games that were scheduled for Thursday are graded “no-action” and refunded. The lone exception was the first half of the St. John’s-Creighton game in the Big East Tournament at Madison Square Garden, which inexplicably played the first 20 minutes before being postponed at halftime with St. John’s leading 38-35. The side/total/money line wagers for the game were no-action, but first-half bettors on St. John’s plus-3 and Over 70.5 were graded winners while Creighton -3 and Under 70.5 were graded losers.
All future wagers on canceled conference tournaments should be refunded, and that also goes for NCAA Tournament futures.
The NBA and NHL seasons have been suspended until further notice, with the start of the upcoming MLB season being delayed.
The house rules for those are more complicated. The simplest to explain is that odds to win those respective season championships are still alive as long as a championship series is held this year, the same would go for wagers such as MVP and Rookie of the Year (which have both been getting a lot of action this year in the NBA). Division and conference odds will depend on if the leagues declare winners of those titles.
The wagers that are most up in the air at this point are NBA Over/Under Seasons Wins and NHL Over/Under Season Point props. Most sportsbook house rules declare that the full schedule (82 for NBA, 80 for NHL) must be played for action, otherwise all those bets would be refunded, even ones in which a team has “clinched” the Over or Under (though some books will still pay off on those, so please check with your own book). MLB is a little different as many books give a little wiggle room for rainouts with only 160 games required, but we’re a long way from finding out if MLB will make up the postponed games or play a shortened season (again, check with our own book if you’ve made any of these types of wagers)

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6 hours ago, Senor Ballistico said:

The sports world is often considered to exist in a parallel universe from real-world problems, but it was dealt a double dose of reality on Wednesday and Thursday with the cancellation of the NCAA Tournament and the suspension of the NBA and NHL seasons among others due to the coronavirus pandemic...
 

 

Expertise and good info is so nice to see.

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18 hours ago, Endless Purple said:

I completely disagree with this.

 

We are always at risk of getting the flu, but we don't shut our lives down, we drive cars and could get hit by a red light runner and we don't shut our lives down, yes, we all can get sick, but spending all your actions over worrying will cause everyone to die from stress related heart attacks and things.  Living a responsible life is a far better option.

 

PS. I have a good friend with immune disorders that can die from the flu very easily and doesn't shut his life down.  Just takes proper precautions.

 

But to the original statement.  If they are at work alone or at home without work - less likely to get sick from someone else. They are more likely to get sick going somewhere else that the people are at.

 

The reason why this is different is that none of those other things you refer to here run the risk of overwhelming the nation's health care system.  Well, the flu runs some risk of doing that, but the reason why the flu hasn't done that since 1918 is that we can vaccinate for it AND that the flu generally runs a pretty predictable course  AND that most flu strains are transmitted from strains that have long existed in humans. 

 

This particular strain of coronavirus is different because it jumped from animal to human, so we have little natural immunity to it and no vaccine to help our immune systems along.

 

Some estimates are that 3/4 of humans might get infected with coronavirus.  There are roughly 325 million people in the US.  If 75% of them get the virus, that's 244 million people.  If the mortality rate is even 0.5%, that is 1.2 million Americans that will die.  If 5% who get it have a severe enough reaction to need medical treatment, that is 12 million Americans in doctors offices and emergency rooms.

 

If those 12 million people all seek that medical treatment, say, in the next 2-3 weeks, it will utterly overwhelm the American healthcare system and that mortality rate starts to increase substantially.  In Italy right now, doctors are having to make decisions about which patients will get ventilators and respirators and which will lay in gurneys in the hallway helpless.  If you want to understand why this is a BFD, read some of the stories coming out of Italy right now.

 

The reason why your friend with the immune disorders can continue to "live life" during a typical seasonal flu outbreaks is herd immunity.  It's the same thing that anti-vaxxers either don't get or don't care about.  There are enough people who DON'T get sick from seasonal flu that allows those with compromised immune systems to generally get through at a relatively low risk of infection.  And even if they do, they can go to the doctor or hospital and not worry about whether they can get treatment.

 

The whole point of the "social-distancing" measures is not to reduce the number of people who get infected, but to reduce the rate at which people are getting infected.  Those 12 million doctor's visits are probably going to happen either way, but we want them to occur over months rather than weeks.  Because if they occur over weeks, that 0.5% death rate starts going way up.

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All of that said, yes the economic cost of these social-distancing measures will be very, very high.  But so would the cost of the health care system breaking down and the subsequent social chaos that would ensue from that.

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1 hour ago, Duquesne Frog said:

All of that said, yes the economic cost of these social-distancing measures will be very, very high.  But so would the cost of the health care system breaking down and the subsequent social chaos that would ensue from that.

 

The kinda "funny" thing about a lot of this is that that silly Jazz player Gobert who touched everyone's gear may well have tipped things more to the correct pathway.

 

Can't think of a better word than scare quoted funny. 

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Friend of my daughter is a policeman in Houston.  He told her not to be surprised is all large cities in Texas go on a shutdown.  Stores, restaurants, etc. all closed.  Told her to make sure she had food and basic needs in the house.

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Looking for entertainment during shutdowns?

 

Met Opera to stream a different past opera nightly for free  https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Met-Opes-To-Launch-Free-Nightly-Streams-During-Coronavirus-Closure-20200313

 

and for those with kids, Disney is sending Frozen 2 to stream now instead of Jun.  https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/13/entertainment/frozen-2-disney/index.html

 

Not exactly Flyers vs. Penguins. But something!

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