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Which human lifespan did all this catastrophe start? So we can start counting until destruction.

The warming rate far in excess of "natural" warming (which as I said right now should actually be cooling if "natural" factors were in control) started about a century ago give or take. Something "unnatural" is occurring.

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My self imposed exile from the General Board has ended.  I have only one comment. 

 

http://totallyhistory.com/the-scream

Good old Krakatoa.

 

Interesting aside: The Krakatoa eruption put so much junk into the atmosphere that weather observers actually saw and recorded observations of the jet stream for the first time. Not that they knew what they were seeing.

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SMH

 

According to a Sunday report from the Florida Center for Investigative Reporting, Scott’s aversion to discussions of man-made climate change have been brought to bear on a department charged with protecting a state that already exhibits many of the changes scientists predict will overtake other coastal regions. Officials with the Florida Department of Environmental Protection (DEP), reported writer Tristram Korten, have been restricted from using the term “climate change” or “global warming” in official correspondence.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/03/09/florida-state-most-affected-by-climate-change-reportedly-bans-term-climate-change/

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SMH

 

According to a Sunday report from the Florida Center for Investigative Reporting, Scott’s aversion to discussions of man-made climate change have been brought to bear on a department charged with protecting a state that already exhibits many of the changes scientists predict will overtake other coastal regions. Officials with the Florida Department of Environmental Protection (DEP), reported writer Tristram Korten, have been restricted from using the term “climate change” or “global warming” in official correspondence.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/03/09/florida-state-most-affected-by-climate-change-reportedly-bans-term-climate-change/

 

 

"If we just don't talk about that bear that we hear prowling outside the tent, maybe it won't come in. Let's eat some Cheesies and bacon chips and talk about Taylor Swift."

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Mmmmm, bacon chips. 

Bears agree with you.

 

A polar bear came now on the ice pack a few years ago and they got him to go into a live trap by putting in a large order of chips (NF for fries) with dressing and gravy--classic NF comfort food. The polar bear went right in.

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Happened to run across this ozone hole "prediction" from the very same ozone "expert" who now as a climate "expert" predicts that dealing with carbon will destroy the economy...

 

"..the consequences of banning CFCs will certainly be disastrous... The proposed replacements are less efficient and some of them are toxic, endangering the health of fridge workers and people nearby.  In Africa, refrigeration saves lives, not only by protecting food against decay and disease, but by preserving medicines, notably vaccines.  Anything that makes refrigeration more expensive or more difficult will cost lives in Africa and add to poverty, and anything that adds to poverty in Africa increases the destruction of the African environment. . .Somehow it is all right for people in the West to benefit from modern technology but wrong for poor people in Africa and Asia.  It is more wholesome for black Africans to die in infancy of "natural" agents such as malaria and food poisoning than to be safeguarded into healthy old age by unnatural agents such as pesticides and CFCs.  The outstanding feature of their victims is that they are poor."  --Dr. Fred Singer

 

The ozone hole is now, slowly, on the road to recovery. I missed these disasters. He also predicted economic ruin if acid rain were dealt with. Here is his position on economic ruin today. It's actually increased up to ripping up the social fabric!...

 

"The ongoing economic suicide of Europe is based on a faulty understanding of the climate issue by most Western politicians and on their extreme policy response, based on emotion rather than logic and science.  The major European economies have reacted irrationally to contrived, unjustified fear of imagined global-warming disasters

 

Perhaps I should explain that the climate has not been warming for the past 18 years — and even if it had been warming, it would be no disaster.  The EU wants to cut emissions of the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide, a natural plant-fertilizer, by 40% within 15 years — by 2030.  This insane drive to replace energy sources from fossil fuels that release plant-friendly CO2 into the atmosphere has led to greatly increased costs of energy.  As is well understood, such actions not only hurt economic growth, but they increase poverty levels and therefore threaten the social fabric of these nations."

 

Europe may indeed be heading for some tough economic years as GW has pointed out. I don't think carbon is at the basis.

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It could be argued that many of his points are accurate. While 'economic ruin' certainly sounds catastrophic, I can see where there likely was negative economic consequences, and possibly ruin, for some. Which may have led to additional hardships, illness or continued poverty for some.

As for the ripping of the social fabric, driven by poverty, thats right out of Barack Obama's book on why ISIS. And I'm sure you didn't wish to disparage one of HIS ideas.

 

First, his point is and was dumb ... the banning of CFCs did not eliminate the technology of refrigeration.  Other refrigerants exist.  Refrigerators didn't go away.

 

Second, even if you could quantify the magnitude of the negative economic impact of replacing CFC refrigerators in Africa with non-CFC refrigerators, where would you guess that impact ranks among the list of negative economic impacts on Africa over the last few centuries?  I'm no economist, but I'm guessing the systematic bleeding of African human and economic capital by European colonialism and the rampant government corruption,among other things, might be slightly higher on the list of causes of African suffering ...

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Another lesson on why climate and weather are not the same thing, Senator Inhofe ...

 

http://time.com/3750660/winter-warm-climate-change-noaa/?xid=gonewsedit&google_editors_picks=true

 

This Was the Warmest Winter on Record

 

But you wouldn't have guessed it if you lived on the East Coast

 

Global temperatures from December to February were the highest on record, U.S. climate officials said Wednesday.

If that comes as a surprise to many Americans after an agonizingly cold winter, it’s because the region encompassing the eastern United States and Canada was one of the only places on earth with lower-than-average temperatures.

 

noaa-weather.jpg?quality=65&strip=color&

 

So basically it was us and the fish south of Iceland bitching about how cold it was and the rest of the Northern Hemisphere wondering what happened to winter ...

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Another lesson on why climate and weather are not the same thing, Senator Inhofe ...

 

http://time.com/3750660/winter-warm-climate-change-noaa/?xid=gonewsedit&google_editors_picks=true

 

This Was the Warmest Winter on Record

 

But you wouldn't have guessed it if you lived on the East Coast

 

Global temperatures from December to February were the highest on record, U.S. climate officials said Wednesday.

If that comes as a surprise to many Americans after an agonizingly cold winter, it’s because the region encompassing the eastern United States and Canada was one of the only places on earth with lower-than-average temperatures.

 

noaa-weather.jpg?quality=65&strip=color&

 

So basically it was us and the fish south of Iceland bitching about how cold it was and the rest of the Northern Hemisphere wondering what happened to winter ...

But in general you'll notice I got the last little tongue of offshore warmth off the East Coast shore!  A bit below average now, though as the cold spot has been migrating east. Now getting snow instead of rain after rain.

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Does this frighten people?

 

IMO, there are a number of reasons why running an uncontrolled experiment on the effect of increasing global atmospheric and oceanic temperatures should give a person pause, at least, if not a bit of fear, yes.

 

Greater point here is that when some of the people who have the power to set some parameters on the uncontrolled experiment are antipathic toward the body of science and argue that snow in winter is more convincing evidence of a hoax than the above is of a global pattern of warming, there is diminishing hope that the uncontrolled experiment will change anytime soon ...

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All the pasty people of Portland have come out of their holes to bask in the light from the unfamiliar shiny ball in the sky the past two days. No one knows what it is, but the illumination is so warm. However, it hurts the eye.

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